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Richard Thomas's avatar

John, that is a pretty good summary of the situation. I agree wholeheartedly that we should exit NATO once and for all. Let us as a country fix our own mess first. Get out of Europe. We could even come up with a catchy moniker like GOE, Get Out of Europe. USEXIT.

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John Newell's avatar

A catchy phrase does not come to mind, maybe GOES, Get Out of Europe Stat! LOL

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Gene Clem's avatar

Excellent! The background is as I remember and the conclusion is one I agree with: admit out guilt, close down NATO. 👌

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John Newell's avatar

Thanks Gene. As I was putting it together this morning, I realized how hard it now is to find truth online.

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Richard Thomas's avatar

We must leave Europe to Europe, and focus all of our energy, and treasure into ensuring that we as a country lead the world in fiscal responsibility. As a nation we are BROKE, in more ways than just the deficit. Our past so-called leaders (at least during my voting life) of this country have borrowed us in the poor house. Hard choices and sacrifice are words that this country was founded upon, by REAL leaders. The LAWYERS elected that serve in DC today cannot be compared to real leaders. They are simply mouth puppets for the companies that they represent. Greed has taken the day to date. How much is enough. The answers are simple, but the leaders want to complicate it. It reminds me of the lawsuit brought against my company by a large foreign owned corporation. Everyone knew the lawsuit was baseless, but this was a targeted calculated attack to financially ruin our small Amercian veteran owned business. The real truth eventually surfaced after 3 years and much treasure that revealed a frivolous lawsuit, and actually a personal attack on myself, not just the company. This country is screaming for TERM LIMITS, for EVERY elected official. Including everyone that is drawing from the taxpayer well.

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John Newell's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly.

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Brandon Sneed's avatar

The British Empire back in Nelson’s day marked the beginning of of an isolationist movement that ultimately ended up breaking up the vast majority of holdings It wasn’t the location or use of colonies that caused the rift.

I will agree to disagree about NATO and Ukraine.

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John Newell's avatar

Good to hear from you Brandon! Empires rise and fall, ours has and is falling; better we control the process ourselves versus waiting for others to do it for us. There is going to be more than one E-W pole in the world, unipolar was an exception; we better figure out how we are going to live with that. I'd argue that we've been a mostly destructive force since WW II; 40+ coups, none of which ended well are one indicator, not a single war won is another. And besides, there is no more treasure to offer up to the god of imperialism. That's my 2 cents anyway.

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mike petifore's avatar

War is just a way to print more money which devalues our money.

Then we call this the real inflation which we see when we buy things.

Remember they always fund both sides of a war.

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John Newell's avatar

The banksters for sure. And I agree with devaluation masquerading as inflation. The whole thing is a racket.

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mike petifore's avatar

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